GIMP 3.0 has been more than one decade in the making as the port from GTK2 to GTK3, also transitioning away from Python 2 to Python 3 support, and a wealth of other improvements from the UI to lower down into enhancing this open-source Photoshop alternative.
The GIMP project announced on X/Twitter today that they have entered the string freeze for this much anticipated release.
Gimp 4.0 is on schedule for a 2040 release at this point
Now using gtk4
You think you just told a joke when in reality…
and thats being optimistic about it…
The Gimp Tool Kit !
okay I’ll bite, what does “string freeze” mean here?
They’ve committed to not changing any displayed text (“strings”), so that translators have time to translate everything.
It means the maintainers have frozen their thongs.
I knew it
Place your bets, are we getting GIMP 3 before 2025?
If we’re in string freeze, it’s probably within a few weeks. They’re in bug squashing and translations mode now. I’d take that bet.
I’m on Slackware so I won’t be getting it this decade 😅
Sure, it’s just another tarball to compile and install, right? What do you mean lots of dependencies? Oh, well, I guess there is Krita :)
can they unfreeze the name?
Why? Everyone knows what gimp is at this point
“everybody” would learn the new name quickly enough. It’s a bad name.
They won’t. It’s an old topic and they are clear about not changing the name. Anyone having a problem can fork and rename the project. But it seems not to be a big issue that nobody wants to do it.
I believe that there is a project that aims to do just this but I can’t remember its name.
If you can’t remember the name, it was probably not a good rename. “Glimpse” was the name, as the other user noted. ;-) On a more serious note, I actually liked the name Glimpse. But they did more than just renaming the project. They had plans to make it very different from Gimp too. So it probably died because of being too ambitious.
Glimpse, but it died in 2021.
port from GTK2 to GTK3
Migrating from an already rooten toolkit to a toolkit that is dead since a few years.
Nice.
They have been migrating to GTK3 since before GTK4 was out.
I am sure they will stay behind but future porting should be easier.
That said, non-GNOME GTK apps seem to be considering sticking with GTK3 anyway ( to avoid libadwaita ).
https://linuxmint-developer-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/xapps.html
It’s not as dead as you think, but yeah…
Yeah … I just hope they’re now being able to decouple the UI and the core and make it easier to migrate to more recent UI toolkits.
Gimp has been falling behind more and more. Back when 2.0 came out it wasn’t as bad yet, but it got worse as years went on.
Even better when we remind ourselves that GTK means “Gimp ToolKit” :)
It’s almost like the whole customized apps to fit into the GTK framework concept creates too much added work and needs to be rethought.
I don’t understand why someone should choose any GTK variant when they’ll have to refactor and rewrite their application every few years.
Fuck yeah! Go GIMP! Also announced on Mastodon fwiw:
https://floss.social/@GIMP/112995553132226800
I’m super excited about 3.0 🪇
No better default gui?
I just flipped through the introduction of a GIMP book that the authors hoped 3.0 would be out so they could cover it but ultimately based the book on 2.6 due to delays. It’s copyright 2012, apparently something (didn’t) happen.
we really got kde 6 before gimp 3
Isn’t this the version where they pinky promised there will be CMYK support?
From https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/ for GIMP 3.0:
Space invasion (work in progress):
Various color management improvements, CMYK support (not as core image format, but import/export and picking/choosing/viewing)…
That’s the one! Didn’t bother finding the source myself, thanks for going the extra bit kind stranger!
Looking forward to eventually burying the old “sticking with Adobe because GIMP doesn’t support CMYK” argument.
Does anyone know if non destructive editing will be possible with 3.0 or if its a feature for the next ten years?
That was answered elsewhere in the comments
After doing a few Google searches, I found that non-destructive editing is not fully implemented in GIMP 3.0, but that it is something that some of the developers are hoping to work towards over the next few years. GIMP 3.0 appears to primarily focus on moving to GTK+3…
…and new font handling, several layer features - including tools working on multiple layers, new and improved tools, wayland support, widows Ink support, new plugin architecture, dynamic guides, improved file handling (formats, bigger files, etc), I think some gesture stuff as well? The non destructive editing is implemented for some things, not others (e.g. if adding a shadow to text and changing the text, the shadow will change too). I probably forgot some stuff…
Will there be a big party where we can be baked
There will be grilled bell peppers.
That’s pretty cool
I’m not sure if that was intended, but string “freeze” is really “cool”.
Still no smart objects/non-destructive editing? :(
Er, yes. It’s one of the main features being introduced in 3.0. I don’t know why you would just assume they’re not adding it without looking it up. It made quite a bit of noise when it started being in the works.
Oh! Well that’s awesome then, thanks for the correction. I did look it up but ended up on some “top feature” article which barely mentioned any features beyond layer multi select. I should have looked further.
They introduced layer effects as a surprise to everyone in one of the latest previews. It’s a little janky, but it works
hope gimp becomes better yeah ik it is not liked that much
I’m so excited! Will it not suck completely? Maybe!
