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I have no idea why people use #Chrome. #Firefox looks so much better, and their theme actually works! Even their hidden compact theme looks perfect, the padding around elements is always the same... meanwhile Chromium uses tons of different shapes and they are all incoherent and the padding is off.
Apart from the fact that Firefox is #efficient has core components rewritten in #rust and supports #wayland for way longer.
#Librewolf is a perfect addition to Firefox, I highly recommend to use it!
A little admiration of how easy UI customization is on Firefox, and how shitty Chromium looks.
I cannot use Firefox without them. They adjust the text rendering to be more… normal, I don’t understand why they aren’t default, but maybe things change at higher resolutions (but I don’t own a 2160p monitor to test).
I’ve accidentally fell into a Linux space, my bad! This will work on Windows, I’m not sure of alternatives on Linux, I gave up using it before I could play around with Firefox.
Try looking for aliasing options under gfx.font_rendering and trying them out.
No offence, but I used to think Windows had good font rendering while I was using it. That was until I started using Linux distros. Now every time I boot into Windows, I again remember how awful Windows looks in comparison - washed out, pixelated, gives me eye strain…
I have the inverse - where Windows is so fine and pixelated it looks blurry. Linux is sharp and legible. It may be to do with with sub-pixel rendering. And this has been the case for across multiple computers and laptops, windows versions and Linux distros.
Firefox dev tools are much better for typical web development.
Not true, not even close. That was true like 15-20 years ago, but nowadays, especially when I’m debugging Angular (yes the extension for chrome is better) and developing stuff that will be used by people who go for Chrome.
You say Angular. But what else can we expect for a framework for making WebKit/Chromium apps.
Angular working in Firefox is an afterthought because it has very much similar featureset.
I’ve to work with what I got :P Either way even if I was doing jQuery or Vue (like I did in the past) I wouldn’t ever use Firefox because even without the Angular extension, just plain JS/CSS debugging I like Chromium dev tools more.
Besides the fact that my target users are always Chrome users and by using Firefox for development in the past I run into issues because specific features would work in Firefox but not on Chrome and vice-versa… or some piece of CSS rendered differently Chromium offers a level of polishness on small details that Firefox wasn’t ever close to. Firefox’s dev tools are always playing catch-up time to Chromium’s, that’s what I see.
Maybe I’m biased like you seem to be, but in the opposite way :P
Chrome dev tools are better for JS debugging, but Firefox wins with everything else, IMO. Especially their flexbox, grid and font visualizations and debug tools are amazing.
Reason n1: Firefox’s font rending sucks; Reasons n2: Chrome dev tools are better and way more supported by whatever ecosystem you develop in.
Try these settings on Firefox in about:config
gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.enhanced_contrast = 100
gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.pixel_structure = 5
gfx.font_rendering.cleartype_params.rendering_mode = 5
gfx.font_rendering.fallback.always_use_cmaps = true
I cannot use Firefox without them. They adjust the text rendering to be more… normal, I don’t understand why they aren’t default, but maybe things change at higher resolutions (but I don’t own a 2160p monitor to test).
Cleartype is not there on my Fedora Firefox on KDE?
I’ve accidentally fell into a Linux space, my bad! This will work on Windows, I’m not sure of alternatives on Linux, I gave up using it before I could play around with Firefox.
Try looking for aliasing options under gfx.font_rendering and trying them out.
Sooo you mean “Windows has horrible font rendering” ;D I think on KDE its fine, some say GNOME is better but idk.
No, Windows has good font rendering actually. It’s very much just a Firefox issue on Windows.
No offence, but I used to think Windows had good font rendering while I was using it. That was until I started using Linux distros. Now every time I boot into Windows, I again remember how awful Windows looks in comparison - washed out, pixelated, gives me eye strain…
never in my years of using Linux have I ever thought that it was rendered clearer. let’s be honest with ourselves, no need to lie.
It’s a function of PPI, hinting settings, font face, etc. The both of you can be correct in your own right…
Objectively there is a long history font rendering issues under linux though, so… eh.
There’s no need to lie when I can tell the truth lol.
Linux’s looks more blurry to me, Window’s is much sharper. Maybe at different resolutions it changes though, you need less aliasing at higher res.
I have the inverse - where Windows is so fine and pixelated it looks blurry. Linux is sharp and legible. It may be to do with with sub-pixel rendering. And this has been the case for across multiple computers and laptops, windows versions and Linux distros.
Strange, I always find it extremely ugly when using Win10 and I think Win11 has improved a lot but not entirely. Its so square-ish for some reason
That’s interesting… it makes a difference indeed.
For frameworks treating Chromium as app development platform like Android. Firefox dev tools are much better for typical web development.
Not true, not even close. That was true like 15-20 years ago, but nowadays, especially when I’m debugging Angular (yes the extension for chrome is better) and developing stuff that will be used by people who go for Chrome.
You say Angular. But what else can we expect for a framework for making WebKit/Chromium apps. Angular working in Firefox is an afterthought because it has very much similar featureset.
I’ve to work with what I got :P Either way even if I was doing jQuery or Vue (like I did in the past) I wouldn’t ever use Firefox because even without the Angular extension, just plain JS/CSS debugging I like Chromium dev tools more.
Besides the fact that my target users are always Chrome users and by using Firefox for development in the past I run into issues because specific features would work in Firefox but not on Chrome and vice-versa… or some piece of CSS rendered differently Chromium offers a level of polishness on small details that Firefox wasn’t ever close to. Firefox’s dev tools are always playing catch-up time to Chromium’s, that’s what I see.
Maybe I’m biased like you seem to be, but in the opposite way :P
Chrome dev tools are better for JS debugging, but Firefox wins with everything else, IMO. Especially their flexbox, grid and font visualizations and debug tools are amazing.
But what if you’re not a web dev?
That’s fair, but I still wouldn’t trade the amazing font rendering that chromium offers.