• @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    I’m not entirely sure why they want to fight low prices? The article doesn’t say why EU and others shouldn’t be able to afford e-vehicles

    • lorez
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      452 years ago

      They undercut the sales of European vehicles which cost more.

        • @[email protected]
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          352 years ago

          “Capitalism breeds innovation and drivers prices down!”

          Capitalism: no not like that

          • bioemerl
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            162 years ago

            Unsustainable Chinese state subsidy is not capitalism.

            • elouboub
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              202 years ago

              US government shoving millions up the asses of the their industries: capitalism

              China shoving millions into their industries: communism

              Yours faithfully, the brainwashed USAian

              • @[email protected]
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                102 years ago

                Of course they are, subsidies are one of capital’s favourite methods to siphon money out of the populace. Or were you under the impression that greedy people like playing fair on fair markets?

            • chaogomu
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              82 years ago

              Every country does some level of industry subsidy. So it’s kind of baked into capitalism now. And, technically, has been since the beginning.

              • bioemerl
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                72 years ago

                Yes, and the EU largely responds in the sectors of US subsidy. Food imports are restricted. Airbus and Boeing are constant sources of trade spats, etc.

                Chinese subsidy makes American subsidy look like childs play. Their response to China should match that discrepancy.

              • @[email protected]
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                42 years ago

                They are talking about car subsidies which China does and not all countries do in all markets.

        • @[email protected]
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          192 years ago

          It’s not that simple. Caricatures are easy, but the fact remains that the Chinese auto makers are heavily subsidized and it’s that government support that allows them (partially at least) to undercut the European auto makers.

          That being said, the European auto makers really deserve to be hurt for their arrogance. And that’s coming from someone whose income is directly related to how well they do.

    • bioemerl
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      182 years ago

      low prices

      They’re fighting Chinese market manipulation that is specifically designed to make the world dependent on them and lowers wages across the world by creating massive market imbalances. Every nation with two brain cells should ban the import of all Chinese vehicles and eventually all Chinese industry entirely.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      Chinese electric car makers get absolutely massive state subsidies. There are companies like Nio that have never made a single dollar of profit. Nio has been losing money on every single car they sell, to the point where they’ve been losing almost a billion dollars in the last quarter alone.

      However, China doesn’t care. The state keeps financing these companies, because if they can undermine European and American auto makers to the point where they’re simply unable to compete and maybe even completely collapse, then Chinese car makers will be the only ones left in the market, and they’ll be able to charge any price they want.

      And realistically, which American or European car maker will be able to compete with a multitude of Chinese competitors that all can afford to lose billions and billions every year without batting an eye?

      So that’s why they want to fight “low prices.”

    • zout
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      32 years ago

      As long as safety and environmental regulations in China are lower than in Europe, it will always be cheaper to produce there.