Setting aside the usual arguments on the anti- and pro-AI art debate and the nature of creativity itself, perhaps the negative reaction that the Redditor encountered is part of a sea change in opinion among many people that think corporate AI platforms are exploitive and extractive in nature because their datasets rely on copyrighted material without the original artists’ permission. And that’s without getting into AI’s negative drag on the environment.

  • TheRealKuni
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    219 months ago

    Average AI art is average. Exceptional AI art is exceptional.

    People who use AI as the tool it is, rather than just feeding it a single prompt and taking a few good results, can make art just like any other artist using a tool. Some of that art is exceptional. Most of it is average. Just like any other tool.

    The best AI art is often the result of multiple passes with inpainting and refining, and touchups in other tools. But that takes time, effort, and skill. Just like any other tool.

    • @[email protected]
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      289 months ago

      LMFAO “uhm ackshually guys AI art takes skill just like human art”

      yeah bud, spending 30 minutes typing sentences into the artist crushing machine is grueling work

      • @[email protected]
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        69 months ago

        That’s not how most people using it creatively are doing it though, have you seen the actual workflows people use? Inpainting and stuff, it can be just as involved as collage or other artforms.

    • @[email protected]
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      159 months ago

      I fully agree with you. However, there’s no point bringing it up here in this echo chamber of luddites. They’re deathly afraid of ai (for no real reason), and it really shows.

      • @[email protected]
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        219 months ago

        I’m not afraid of AI and I’m certainly not a luddite my friend. I used to lecture about technology in art on several university courses.

        I’ve used algorithms to generate work that has been shown on an international stage, and used computers to run massive participatory art shows.

        I currently work in publishing, and I can’t express how much AI has already impacted the landscape through generative text. It doesn’t compete with traditional authors, it just smothers them through sheer volume. It clogs up submission processes and it fills open calls… And nearly every one using generative methods thinks they should be called an “author” just because they put a few words into a prompt.

        There really is a reason I hold this point if view and it is based on experience and education as well as being part of an industry that this is already having an impact on.

        If you want me to take you seriously, I’m going to need some real discussion around the firm that goes beyond name calling and vague statements.

        • @[email protected]
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          49 months ago

          I honestly don’t give a fuck whether you take me seriously or not. As a luddite and technophobe, your opinion means less than nothing to me.

          Doesn’t change the fact that you’re afraid of AI though. It is gonna change things, and just because you’re afraid of it isn’t going to stop it. I suggest you learn to adapt.

      • @[email protected]
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        129 months ago

        Nah this is just an epidemic of lazy people who want the credit of being called an artist without putting in any of the work.

        • @[email protected]
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          49 months ago

          Nah its an epidemic of cowards who are afraid of things they don’t understand. Here’s some advice. Educate yourself, and maybe try to understand things before making stupid statements.

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        Art is subjective. What I find impactful or meaningful may not be what you find impactful or meaningful. I’ll just say I’ve seen exceptional AI art, but it’s rare.

        I can’t remember the specifics, but I do recall there was a work that won some art contest and then had its win revoked because AI generation was used in its creation. I recall really liking that piece.

        Edit: I find it remarkable that anyone would downvote what I said in this post. The other I get, you all have your notions and aren’t going to change your minds, that’s fine, I get it. But nothing I said in this post was controversial.