• Dark Arc
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    616 days ago

    A state wide mono-culture based on an unsolved cultural issue isn’t “education” it’s inherently heavy handed.

    It also actively harms schools that may be trying to teach students how to use cell phones productively in their lives to help them solve problems rather than pretending as though they don’t exist.

      • @[email protected]
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        416 days ago

        You can’t get/keep many jobs without one here, so it would make sense that being able to have/use one should be part of the education for said jobs.

        I haven’t a job in ~7+ years that didn’t require 2 factor applications on personal devices to be able to access company resources such as email, elevated security accounts, VPN connections, etc.

      • Dark Arc
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        216 days ago

        Ahh yes, hostile partial quoting to make my country seem unintelligent; welcome to my block list.

    • just another devA
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      316 days ago

      How it’s handled in countries such as Norway or The Netherlands is that those kinds of classes are exempt from the ban. It’s not a hard issue to solve.

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        16 days ago

        Part of that is teaching people how to control their impulses and stay on task.

        Your workspace isn’t going to have you hang your phone up on the wall somewhere when you come into work and have someone tell you “now is the time to use your phone.”

        College isn’t going to do it either.

        We also could take some cues that maybe this isn’t all as serious as we make it out to be. My high school back in the 2010s gave us a ton of busy work, insisted on making it effectively mandatory if you wanted a decent grade, didn’t let people go to the bathroom without asking permission and using a sign out sheet, insisted every second of every lesson was crucial, and was very strict about not pulling out your cell phone basically ever (kids still snuck texts here and there).

        I see more merits for small children, but in general I’m strongly in favor of radical changes to how we approach education … because learning should be fun but is not for so many people … and we forget so much of what we’ve been “taught” anyways.

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          Beats me, I don’t live in the US.

          I stand corrected. It doesn’t include that as far as we know, on account of the bill not existing yet, not even in draft form. If you don’t mind, I’m going to ignore everything else you say now.