Apple users bash new iPhone 15: ‘Innovation died with Steve Jobs’::Smart phone fans are griping about Apple’s new devices since the arguably anti-climactic announcement of the forthcoming iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus on Tuesday.

  • P03 Locke
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    882 years ago

    Steve Jobs didn’t innovate a thing in his life. Apple has always been stealing tech and pretending that they created it.

    Now with this new version, they don’t even have much anything to steal. At best, they pretended that the EU didn’t force them to adopt USB 3 and boast how much faster it is than Lightning port.

    • @[email protected]
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      402 years ago

      Actually the EU only forced them to adopt USB C. Only their ‘Pro’ model actually has USB 3. Imagine having to pay a premium for the luxury of a 15 year old technology

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        And they still don’t have PD on the pro.

        My guess is that they’ll be going portless soon, and don’t want users freaking out that they can’t change their phones as quickly, so they’re intentionally nerfing the charge speeds on USB C.

        • Loewi CW
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          82 years ago

          They have to have USB power delivery by the EU law but only as fast as the device supports at all. So if they only have 20W charging at all that’s legal.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          USB C without PD ain’t compliant with the EU regulation, so I hope for them, and their users, that PD is onboard.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          With how much they’re investing in video and how large their camera/film user base is, they will not go portless.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        Apple just wants to get rid of low income people having an iphone.

        Iphones whole thing has always been to be a luxury brand, that only rich people can afford.

    • Johanno
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      122 years ago

      Their Laptop Chips are in fact leading technology. Intel and AMD are far behind in Performance/Power used

      • @[email protected]
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        You’re correct, but it’s important to note that the M chips are very expensive to produce, and abandoning x86 means literally all the software iOS and OSX uses needs to be rewritten (or translated via Rosetta). It’s a huge project with tons of risks and massive costs. Apple can do this because they’re pretty much completely vertically integrated at this point, and control their ecosystem completely. If amd independently released some new non compatible architecture that was dramatically faster, it’d likely be dead in the water.

        Intel learned this lesson the hard way during the Itanic days. AMD took the relatively safer approach when they released amd64.

        • Johanno
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          22 years ago

          Correct. I wish there were open source chips in this category. Not that anyone could afford to produce it, but I believe Software for a chip with a new instruction set would be more adapted if you could look everything up

            • Johanno
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              12 years ago

              Well it seems I am not up to day on the topic. This is great

          • @[email protected]
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            There are, Risc-V has been hard at work with several partners (including Bosch and Qualcomm) to bring comparable RISC SoCs to consumer markets (there are already industrial offerings). But it’s not fast nor cheap to do it. It also has a major drawback that’s never talked about that, unlike x86, SoCs become obsolete way sooner for a much higher upfront cost. So, an upgradeable Risc-V option is kind of an elusive idea, for most of the computing power and energy consumption advantages come from the System on a chip design. Today people expect more storage space than ever, and to play with the newer and most powerful graphics options. Something that SoCs cannot change fast or easily.

            Software support is also the worst point right now, a problem that Apple addressed by bearing the brunt of the port and compatibility work. But it’s not so simple for other vendors who have to rely on third parties to make their software available in their platform.

            Why spend more in a new laptop that is barely just as powerful and runs none of the software you want? Apple cult clout is the only thing leading the sales of the Apple Silicon. And software developers are not interested on porting their software to a platform with no users.

            On the other hand Risc-V has only existed since 2015, so it’s massive strides and advances are actually quite impressive. And with more governments looking to become independent from Chinese transistors we might be looking at a new processor arch era, though only after a short growing pains period that we are in right now.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Steve Jobs didn’t innovate a thing in his life.

      That is absolute bullshit. Sure he was an asshole to his co-workers and even his family, but I’m so tired of this false narrative that acts like Jobs is completely overrated.

      Apple has always been stealing tech and pretending that they created it.

      Yeah remember when they stole the click wheel concept from…oh wait they didn’t steal that. Remember when they stole MacOS from…oh wait…they didn’t do that either.

      Stop being an armchair expert on something you have zero clue about. JFC.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        ‘Good artists copy; great artists steal’ -Steve Jobs, proudly bragging about stealing ideas.

        Such as the mouse which they stole from Xerox. There are many examples of this for people who don’t have apple dick in their mouths

      • P03 Locke
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        12 years ago

        Remember when they stole MacOS from…

        XWindows? Was that what you were going to say?

        Yeah remember when they stole the click wheel concept from…

        Wow, you are really digging the bottom of the barrel…

    • El Barto
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      Except that their implementation of USB-C will be way slower than the lightning port.

      Edit: I’ve been schooled.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      They can’t. It’s clearly stated that the USB connector is still limited to the lightning speed.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        There is no such thing as ‘lightning speed’. It’s just a connector, not a data communication standard. The non-pro iPhone 15 uses the same SoC as last year’s pro models, which happens to have an USB 2.0 controller. The new SoC used in the 15 Pro models have a 10 gbit USB 3.0 controller on board.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          “Still limited to the same speed of the model using the lightning connector” did not have the same ring to it.

          Did not know they finally moved to a usb3 chipset on the pro when I commented, good to hear.