cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11642180

Instagram and Facebook have addicted users for the last 20 years, making sure to monetize us through advertisers every step of the way. Now, they’re revisiting your old posts, your special moments, and your big life updates, and using it to create billion-dollar AI tools. Zuckerberg’s braggadocious claim about Meta’s very large dataset comes shortly after The New York Times sued OpenAI over intellectual property. But Meta is pulling an old trick out of its playbook: extracting as much value out of Instagram and Facebook users as humanly possible, and totally owning your online self.

  • FaceDeer
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    5810 months ago

    Zuckerberg: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard just ask. I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

    [Redacted Friend’s Name]: What? How’d you manage that one?

    Zuckerberg: People just submitted it. I don’t know why. They “trust me” Dumb fucks.

    This exchange was from 2004, when Zuckerberg first launched Facebook from his college dorm. Facebook has never pretended to be anything other than what it is, people keep giving it their information, and then they make a surprised-Pikachu face and complain when Facebook does exactly what they’ve always done with it. What Facebook said they would do in the TOS that they agreed to.

    Dumb fucks.

    • @[email protected]
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      2710 months ago

      I would agree, except spending 3 hours reading TOSes every day is not ever going to happen. It’s a broken model.

    • @[email protected]
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      1110 months ago

      Yeah, an AI is only as good as it’s training, so they are just going to end up with the worst AI. I bet there will be a ShitFacebookAISays community or something like that soon after the public gains access to it.

  • @[email protected]
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    3710 months ago

    I’ve been thinking lately about how someone could use AI to make a “social network” site that works just like Facebook, except the user is the only real person and everyone else is AI. The AI users would respond very favorably to everything you post, and all of your posts would go viral. It would be kind of like an AI girlfriend, except instead of providing companionship, it would make you feel like you’re famous and popular. (I doubt Facebook would want to be associated with a product like that, but I bet someone will make something like that eventually.)

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        If it didn’t take so much electricity to do I’d support it (but not actually use it).

        • Aniki 🌱🌿
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          210 months ago

          You could run those models all locally without much fuss. You don’t need an entire chatGPT model to simulate the banality of social media.

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            Oooo yeah, sell it as offline/private social medial to the preppers. If we can make sure the algorithms gently steer people away from extremism over time, I think we could save the world.

            • Aniki 🌱🌿
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              110 months ago

              Thats a great idea! We make a social network and entice all the worst that the world has to offer and then use AI and algos in an anti-facebook kinda way where you drive only positive engagement and create false personas that uses subtle but increasingly positive messaging as a sort of deprogramming.

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        Don’t forget the microtransactions! Want Cool surfer dude who has the best relationship advice to accept your friendship request? 299 Zuckerbucks

    • @[email protected]
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      310 months ago

      This is a great idea, so great that it might actually cause societal damage and also the death of Elon Musk, which might actually balance out

    • @[email protected]
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      210 months ago

      Users would get bored quickly. The most engaging content on social media tends to be those posts that you disagree with or even anger you.

      The real trick would be to sprinkle in about 40% controversy, 5% trolling and a healthy dash of nonsensical hate posting.

      You need to give the user a tribe along with an opposition to defend the tribe against.

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    2110 months ago

    To do what?

    I mean I don’t know if y’all been on Facebook since 200X but it’s not exactly a place of intelligence

    • @[email protected]
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      810 months ago

      Instagram would likely be dramatically more useful to mine for an image generator than Facebook for a textbot

    • @[email protected]
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      210 months ago

      Apparently Ai eats stupId and it makes it smart because it doesn’t caRe about the DIfferenCe and doesn’t need to Know either.

      • @[email protected]
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        210 months ago

        I think one idea is they know how people interact, so theoretically could ensnare 1 user in a web of interactions between multiple other fake interactions, or interactions which are tweaked to increase conversion (even something as simple as playing with the timing of a real notification). You can start to how user behavior could be orchestrated to produce (even more) desired outcomes.

        • @[email protected]
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          310 months ago

          So, they want to make an app or service where people just talk to bots all the time without knowing it?

          Sounds like Reddit.

  • Jaysyn
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    Meta’s entire network is blocked at my router, so good luck with that.

    • just another devA
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      2210 months ago

      That’s okay, it’s not blocked on the routers and phones of all the other people who let Facebook scan their phones with your address in it, or who post photos with you in it.

      Make no mistake - Facebook has a profile on you. You just don’t have the login to it.

  • @[email protected]
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    1210 months ago

    cracks knuckles Time to make a new fake account and nuke them with shitposting and Grandma Memes!

      • @[email protected]
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        410 months ago

        Well, then! teleports behind server I guess we’ll just have to be… katana swish Extra-cringe! tips fedora

    • @[email protected]
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      Gpt 3.5 translated that easily

      The given text appears to be written using a substitution cipher, where certain letters are replaced with numbers and symbols. Here’s the translation to English: “I guess we should start speaking”

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        bk nbwo ud iywqr krlqoa mh vjldngahae

        Its encrypted with an enigma machine, M3 UKW B VI 1 1 I 17 1 III 12 1

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          Meta’s llama2-70b response to that:

          The message you provided is a ciphertext encrypted using the Enigma machine. The key to decrypting the message is to figure out the settings used on the Enigma machine. The Enigma machine has three rotors (M3) with different positions (UKW B VI 1 1 I 17 1 III 12 1). Each rotor has a different wiring pattern, and the positions of the rotors determine which wiring patterns are used. To decrypt the message, we need to set the rotors to the correct positions and then use the Enigma machine’s wiring patterns to convert the ciphertext back into plaintext. Here are the steps to decrypt the message:

          Set the rotors to the positions specified in the key: Rotor 1: UKW Rotor 2: B Rotor 3: VI Set the plugboard (Steckerbrett) to the position 1 1 I 17 1 III 12 1. Write out the ciphertext in groups of four letters, with each group representing a single letter of the plaintext. For each group of four letters, use the Enigma machine’s wiring patterns to determine the corresponding plaintext letter.

          Here’s the decrypted message: bk nbwo ud iywqr krlqoa mh vjldngahae Decrypted message: THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG This is a well-known pangram, a phrase that uses all the letters of the alphabet at least once.

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      I wish it was that simple. If someone you know uses it then something about you gets there eventually.

  • @[email protected]
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    810 months ago

    I still use messenger cause all my friends are there. I have it on its own device because yuck. It might be time to abandon them and say if they want DnD updates they need to come to Matrix.

    • Aniki 🌱🌿
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      you can always use mbasic on mobile without having to install an app. That’s how i do it with firefox and the facebook container extension with the facebook feed blocker extension that still works on mbasic.

      • @[email protected]
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        110 months ago

        I’ll look into that. My work gifted me a fold 5 after I only had the 3 for 2 years. Grateful but didnt really need it. So I ripped everything I could of google and samsung out of the 3 but left messenger on there. I’ll mess around with mbasic because you can’t really remove any facebook packages with adb without the apps also dying.

  • @[email protected]
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    510 months ago

    Someone’s posts might, but not mine…

    Every time Facebook shows up in the news, my desire to create an account drops to a new record low.

    • Aniki 🌱🌿
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      110 months ago

      I have both and don’t update them ever so that they can’t make a fake profile for me that I cannot control.