• dustycups
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    The discussion on LKML was so civilised compared to this one.
    I wonder what the phoronix one is like…

  • Display name
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    ITT: one reasonable comment about the topic and a shit ton of Putinist apologizers and heaxbear brigading

    Edit: no three comments

    • Southern Boy
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      More like a shitton of people with no knowledge about who actually worked on this patch erecting a personality cult around their new NATO hero.

    • TimeSquirrel
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      They can fork it or switch to BSD if they’re still whining about the Russia thing. Who cares.

  • @[email protected]
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    1077 hours ago

    Someone just removed many lifetimes of CO2 emissions with a couple of lines of code.

    Shame that usage will just expand to fill the gap. Thanks late stage capitalism. Degrowth.

    • sweetpotato
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      Wasn’t expecting this under a random unrelated post. A very welcome comment nonetheless.

      Never forget that the exponential boom of renewable energy tech the last 20 years has entirely served as additional energy, not as replacement of fossil fuels.

      • @[email protected]
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        65 hours ago

        Unexpected but entirely welcome.

        People do forget this all too often.

        Cheaper stuff, use more , value less.

      • @[email protected]
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        He would only escape if he was a presidential candidate or a multi billionaire.

        Since he is neither and he works on US soil, then the law came after him. You would cave in, if in similar circumstances.

      • @[email protected]
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        I already explained my point about it. A lot of companies rebased themselves when political issues occured. The Linux Foundation could easily do that. It’s just racism.

        • @[email protected]
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          Counter argument: The maintainers could “easily” relocate to a country that is not currently conducting an invasion to enlarge its territory.

        • @[email protected]
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          Sanctions against a country/nation that is attacking another sovereign nation are not “racist”. Russia could easily stop their war to start getting rid of the sanctions.

          • @[email protected]
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            It depends, though. There are western and other countries invading and much worse, but there are no sanctions. It could be racism, interests or both that only a certain country is targeted with sanctions.

            • @[email protected]
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              There should be sanctions on every country invading. Its not rocket science. It’s crazy to say that russia is being sanctioned for racist reasons. They are literally attacking an European nation. Makes sense that other European countries sanction them, no?

            • @[email protected]
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              So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where? Sorry that was such a bad argument that I did not even consider it being one.

              Why would they relocate? To keep a few Russian maintainers? Because not relocating is “racist”? Not sure what you mean, just trying to guess.

              • @[email protected]
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                So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where?

                Somewhere stable and neutral like Switzerland or some island. I’m not a lawyer so can’t say which country is the best for it.

                Because not relocating is “racist”?

                To some extent, yes.

                • @[email protected]
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                  “Russian” is not a race. And Finland has a history with Russia that isn’t easily forgotten. That is to say, every Finn I’ve spoken to hates Russia for invading Finland… Twice…

                  Finland isn’t even the only neighbour that hates Russia. At some point one has to wonder why so many of Russia’s neighbours hate, or at the very least don’t feel comfortable with, Russia.

                  Maybe, just maybe, the reason why everyone is having issues with Russia is Russia’s own damn fault.

        • @[email protected]
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          They are bound by USA sanction law, moving to another NATO country would be same sanctions against Russia

    • Vitaly
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      He is a finn, what do you expect from him? I fully support his position

      • Would you support him banning AmeriKKKan and Isn’treali developers too, given that their countries’ war crimes are far grander in scale, horror, and devastation than Russia’s?

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        74 hours ago

        not to be a bigoted piece of shit? i guess we can’t expect that from either of you worthless hounds.

        if he wasn’t a complete hypocrite he’d ban people from the u.s. and israel as well.

      • @[email protected]
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        Well, when you put it like that, I expect him to join the Israeli death squads “out of pragmatism”

        • @[email protected]
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          Can’t tell if this a rage bot or an average .ml user Notice the Z not exactly a reasonable person

              • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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                The principle remains. “My government is bad so I have to also be bad” is not a valid argument, no matter the relative levels of badness. It’s a lazy, morally bankrupt worldview

                And Linus didn’t do his racist shit while dragging his feet anyway, he did so gleefully and while repeating chauvinist racist narratives

      • Barx [none/use name]
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        Really sticking it to those… friendly Russian kernel maintainers. Really doing your part for your individual Two Minutes Hate.

        So presumably, as a consistent person that is outrages by invasions and death, you call for the expulsion of all Americans and Usraelis, right?

      • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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        208 hours ago

        He is a finn, what do you expect from him?

        Continued use of the swastika in his military and a stubborn refusal to acknowledge how many Soviets the Finns starved to death in Leningrad while working with the Third Reich, presumably.

      • Chump [he/him]
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        His position is that he’s an asshole who won’t stand up to the US lol

          • Southern Boy
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            Yes, all of the people who initially used the software and tested it before you are the people who already moved away from Reddit for ethical reasons, not because of the API catastrophe. We are more likely to be on the older instances, not the Reddit instances. Lemmy.ml users tend to be far more politically aware of how propaganda works and avoidant of US interference. New instance users like to cheerlead the US exactly like reddit does.

      • @[email protected]
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        Apparently tankies on Lemmy don’t like Linux any more after some Russian contributors were removed from the maintainers list.

        The contributors were removed because they or their employers (or maybe ex-employers) appeared on the US list of Specially Designated Nationals (SDN). It is illegal for Americans such as Linus Torvalds to conduct business with entities that appear on that list.

        • Dessalines
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          Redditors can’t help themselves but be racist against russians.

          • @[email protected]
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            Are you lost? This is not reddit. Also, Russia could stop attacking an european nation to gain some respect back. But they won’t. Instead they threaten everyone with nukes daily and cry why nobody likes them.

            • Xavienth
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              Asks the fucking developer of lemmy if they’re lost. fucking lmao

          • mihor
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            Redditors are garbage, to paraphrase the POTUS.

      • @[email protected]
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        1811 hours ago

        They’re crying about the removal of Russians for being a security threat to the project, when they should be directing their hate at the psychopathic megalomaniac.

    • @[email protected]
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      159 hours ago

      You think open source project maintainers should move to different countries because of temporary sanctions? What if they have a wife with a job and kids in school? Or delicate Lego collections that are impossible to pack? Or a side-piece?

      Take issue with the sanctions if you want but don’t take issue with people who don’t want to move their family, LEGO collections, and side-pieces.

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        Move physically? Of course not. If it’s required to register the foundation, they could ask a maintainer from the country to register it. It’s not the cleanest of schemes but it should work. Though if Linus lives in the US now, it can still cause issues because US law system has been proven to not work and they could easily arrest him illegally if they wanted to. However in this case it’s the same as living in Russia. Both countries are terroristic.