• KeriKitty (They(/It))
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    135 months ago

    Gross! Couldn’t even let schools decide, somehow it’s important to ban them state-wide? Piss off.

    • @[email protected]
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      185 months ago

      The state is responsible for the education of children. This absolutely falls within their scope.

      • Dark Arc
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        65 months ago

        A state wide mono-culture based on an unsolved cultural issue isn’t “education” it’s inherently heavy handed.

        It also actively harms schools that may be trying to teach students how to use cell phones productively in their lives to help them solve problems rather than pretending as though they don’t exist.

        • just another devA
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          35 months ago

          How it’s handled in countries such as Norway or The Netherlands is that those kinds of classes are exempt from the ban. It’s not a hard issue to solve.

          • Dark Arc
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            5 months ago

            Part of that is teaching people how to control their impulses and stay on task.

            Your workspace isn’t going to have you hang your phone up on the wall somewhere when you come into work and have someone tell you “now is the time to use your phone.”

            College isn’t going to do it either.

            We also could take some cues that maybe this isn’t all as serious as we make it out to be. My high school back in the 2010s gave us a ton of busy work, insisted on making it effectively mandatory if you wanted a decent grade, didn’t let people go to the bathroom without asking permission and using a sign out sheet, insisted every second of every lesson was crucial, and was very strict about not pulling out your cell phone basically ever (kids still snuck texts here and there).

            I see more merits for small children, but in general I’m strongly in favor of radical changes to how we approach education … because learning should be fun but is not for so many people … and we forget so much of what we’ve been “taught” anyways.

            • just another devA
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              5 months ago

              Beats me, I don’t live in the US.

              I stand corrected. It doesn’t include that as far as we know, on account of the bill not existing yet, not even in draft form. If you don’t mind, I’m going to ignore everything else you say now.

        • @[email protected]
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          35 months ago

          schools teach how to use cell phones

          If you were serious, your country is in deep shit.

          • @[email protected]
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            45 months ago

            You can’t get/keep many jobs without one here, so it would make sense that being able to have/use one should be part of the education for said jobs.

            I haven’t a job in ~7+ years that didn’t require 2 factor applications on personal devices to be able to access company resources such as email, elevated security accounts, VPN connections, etc.

          • Dark Arc
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            25 months ago

            Ahh yes, hostile partial quoting to make my country seem unintelligent; welcome to my block list.

    • @[email protected]
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      75 months ago

      Yes, education is important, and this would spare every single school the intense battle vs parents to do the right thing.